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Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 05, 2008, 07:04:59 PM »
Referencing Corp Recruiter's comments on selection of a recruiter.....I have received calls from headhunters who will not tell me the name of the Client(s) that they want to present my background to. They expect me to be direct with my resume, salary, references, etc. If a recruiter can't be honest and forthcoming with me...they will not get my time or referrals.
I would be interested to hear from some recruiters on this topic..
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dperrings
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 05, 2008, 07:11:46 PM »
I am not a recruiter. But yes, it is a two way street. If your not happy with their conditions do not fold simply because it tells them that you give in easy.
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Corp Recruiter
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 06, 2008, 08:10:12 AM »
The main reason that the agency recruiter won't share the name of the firm is to "protect the client". Another reason is so that you don't rush to the companies website and apply online before they can get your resume over to the HR department.
If you have a good relationship with an agency recruiter, they should share the name of the firm unless they are doing a confidential search (replacing someone) for that company.
Agreed that it is a two way street - you have to trust them, and they have to trust you.
Your best bet is to find a recruiter that someone you know has had success with and work with that recruiter. Once you have a one on one relationship with that recruiter and he/she knows that you won't go around them to a job, they will share all the details with you. That is the relationship you want to have with your recruiter.
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rwallin
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 06, 2008, 08:34:55 AM »
I have managed to develop relationsips with several recruiters over the last few years. There is a level of trust that has been established that if they are serious about proposing a position to me, they will tell me the client in confidence. I have always been upfront with the recruiters I deal with regarding where I will work (companies and locations) since many of them are not local and might not understand the pros and cons of various commutes. While I have never accepted a position through a recruiter, I find that the few I deal with regularly appreciate my insights on the local market and, on some occasions, the leads I can give them to someone else who may be interested - it does need to be a two way street, otherwise it is like being called by a telemarketer during dinner at home.
I had a nice half hour chat with a recruiter yesterday that started off with a potential position and ended up with chatting about the construction industry. I have never actually sent a resume to a recruiter, especially when most of my information is displayed in public places (Linkedin, Plaxo, Naymz, etc.).
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searchgodess
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 06, 2008, 09:41:00 AM »
As a recruiter, this subject makes me crazy. I don't worry about something that could happen 1% of the time, such as a candidate going around my back to apply directly to my client. I WISH all recruiters would be forthright about who they are sending the resumes to. It would save everyone a lot of time and energy by not duplicating everyone's efforts. On the same subject, I will not disclose my client if a candidate is not willing to send me a resume first because that means they are just tire kicking or being nosy. I let all my contacts know that I do not send anyone's resume to a client without their permission first. I just hate the impression of playing games with people and treat my candidates with respect and as a professional.
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Phil Collins, Claremont-Branan Group
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 11, 2008, 03:55:35 PM »
SMPS Member,
The issue you brought up has long been a source of confusion for all parties. Though a little late in the conversation, here goes...
Initial contacts between a recruiter and a prospective candidate should include enough information exchange to allow each to determine if further conversation and disclosure are warranted. The recruiter may not be willing to identify their client in this early phase. This is reasonable.
Once both parties agree to move forward, the recruiter may request to see a copy of your resume. At this point, it is perfectly acceptable for you to insist that your resume not be shared with anyone without your permission and knowledge of who will be receiving it. If the recruiter cannot assure you of this, you should question whether or not to proceed with them.
Once the recruiter has reviewed your resume and has determined that you are a viable candidate for their client's position, there is no reason to withold the name of their client. In fact, at this juncture, they should be willing to share further insight as to why they believe you are a good candidate, field your questions, and seek your permission to submit your resume.
I encourage candidates to take control of their resume in this manner. The recruiter should appreciate this stance as well. After all, everyone looks bad when the same candidate is submitted by more than one recruiter.
And, in my opinion, the idea of a "confidential search to replace," does not trump the candidate's right to know where their resume is going.
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Phil Collins
CBG, LLC - A Veteran-Owned Small Business
Consulting Engineering Search Since 1983
CE Search Consultant
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Re: Recruiters who withhold Client's name
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June 11, 2008, 10:56:34 PM »
SMPS - I would agree with most of the comments on here. I have been recruiting for 11 years, I'm a straight shooter. When I qualify a candidate I can size them up pretty quickly in regards to their level of interest in the opportunity that I present to them. I know when they are just fishin' to see who it is that is looking and I know when they are serious. When I sense they are fishin' I throw them back in the water without releasing my client's name. When I sense they are serious I share with them my client's name. It is pretty cut and dry, BUT, I do have a quick story for you which should make us all aware of what can happen. Last week I qualified a candidate for a Director of Marketing position, and she was very interested and really excited about the position. It was just up her alley and it was five miles from her home. I told her who the company was, I emailed her my contact information and she in turn sent me her resume. In between the time I was able to review her resume and correspond to my client her qualifications she took it upon herself to make some calls to some people she knew, one thing led to another and she submitted directly to my client before I was able to. SOOOOO very annoying. I had to read her the riot act (calmly and professionaly of course). Luckily my client and I have a solid and respectful relationship where I was able to explain what happened, and the candidate reitereated what had happened as well. It's all good now, if they hire her I will of course get credit, BUT there are candidates out there like that that will pull that same silly stunt because they just don't know better or they don't really understand how it is we make our living. That being said, this happens VERY rarely and does not deter me from releasing my client's name to the right candidate.
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