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TheCERecruiter
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« on: August 13, 2008, 08:27:02 PM »

OK.  For all the years that I have been recruiting, didn't think I would run into this with a long time split partner.  And before you ask, no, I don't have a written agreement with this person.  So, just found out, my teaming partner has been sourcing my candidates.  He sourced my candidate, which I had already done, and then tried to present one of the candidates for one of my jobs?  THE UNWRITTEN RULE was broken.  To me this is like handing over my database to another recruiter as a gift!?  Do you think it is OK? If so, let's do splits and let me build my database from your candidates! Sure would save me time from recruiting my own folks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 06:47:22 PM »

We consulted industry expert, Paul Hawkinson, www.fordyceletter.com on this topic. Among other things, he provided us a widely used split partnership agreement which states:

The referring associate (or recruiter with the job order) shall not contact a candidate for networking or additional referrals, without the consent of the recruiting associate (the recruiter who refers the candidate for the job).


We agree with Paul and you TheCERecruiter.... are we supposed to monitor and not offer our opinions? Oops!   Grin
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Recruiter Chic
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 07:23:44 AM »

Hey TheCERecruiter....I couldn't agree with you more!  And, I don't think it is necessarily an "unwritten rule" I think with trained recruiters it is understood.  Maybe your teaming partner was one of the self taught recruiters. As someone in the business once told me (on this topic), sourcing a teaming partner's candidates: "most deem this to be unethical and tacky at best." I couldn't have said it better!!!  Run, cut  your losses and do NO MORE work with that recruiter.  If you are in a formal network, notify them immediately.  That is not acceptable split partner behavior!  If you are in an informal network....warn your other recruiters of this person!
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 08:41:19 PM »

BEWARE - there are a lot of SHADY recruiters out there who give folks like you(presumably) and I a bad name, and I guess you can only get burned once by the same recruiter.  In my years of recruiting it has ALWAYS been understood that whoever "owns" the candidate "owns" and referrals that come from that candidate, whether myself or my split partner asks for it.  In the words of Snoop Dog, what you need to do with that split partner is "Drop 'em like it's hot, Drop 'em like it's hot." Cool

Holla back, if you like  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 07:56:40 PM »

Had to jump in on this topic.  Grin

There are so many problems with sourcing a teaming partner's candidates.  All that were mentioned above.  Another related issue follows:

Once I had a teaming partner call me with a name he sourced from one of my candidates. He said "Here is the name I sourced from your candidate; but from what I understand, this person is from a related industry and is most likely NOT a good fit for my opening.  Do you want to call her or do you want me to call and screen."  Here was the mistake.  I was overwhelmed and gave the "OK" for him to call the "most likely NOT a good fit" candidate.  Yes, the person was NOT a fit, BUT she gave my teaming partner many names and became an outstanding source for him.  I was OUT.  Hard learning experience.   Angry
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 08:34:39 PM »

Let me tell you how this situation just presented itself to me and how I handled it, which I believe is the correct and ONLY way to move forward.  Nine months ago one of my split partners sent me a candidate for a position that I had, after dancing around with my client a little bit there was not a clear fit and the candidate found an opportunity elsewhere.  I recently started a search for one of my clients that required someone with this candidate's credentials, so I gave that candidate a call to check in and see how his new position was going.  Should he have been interested, I would have told my split partner and we would have moved forward as normal.  It turns out the candidate was NOT interested, but he did refer to me a GREAT candidate that I immediately called, qualified, and requested a resume which I received later that evening.  In turn, I contacted my split partner to let her know what had transpired and I forwarded to her a copy of that candidate's resume.  I then submitted that candidate to my client and should a placement occur I will split the fee down the middle with my split partner.  Ideally, I should have let my split partner contact her candidate initially and get the referral that I did, but I could not wait.  In the end, the result is the same and I felt comfortable making that call immediately since my split partner and I have the highest level of respect and trust for each other.  Now, my split partner, if she wanted, could take that resume that I just submitted and submit it to her clients as well, and should she place him, she would get 100% of the fee.  But we have agreed that she would not move on the candidate until my client had completed their full evaluation and put closure to the interview process.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 02:17:59 PM »

Clearly your split partner is not ethical, and this is exactly the reason many people stay away from doing split business. Sometimes the most 'seemingly' trustworthy person will stab you in the back, given the opportunity to make some extra cash.

How anyone can justify in their mind that this is OK, is beyond my comprehension. I believe it actually transcends the ethical into the pathological realm. This obviously sounds dramatic, but it's amazing how studies show time and time again that criminals are consistantly able to rationalize their behavior. They are surely not to blame for having committed a crime, whether robbing a bank or being a serial killer. 

I'm sorry this happened to you, what a crappy lesson to learn after all of these years! Some people/recruiters just aren't CIVIL...

Speaking of not being civil, I'd put this person's name out there on some of the split business sites and let some honest folks know they should stay away from this jerk.
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